Critique please? I don't want to be another fauxtog teen with a dslr

[christinamphoto]

Did you boost the clarity? I’m going to learn and improve my editing. But believe me, her skin is white, which I think it’s actually stunning, but I find it more difficult to get proper exposure/white balance on people with light or darker skin. The reason why it looks different in the book store, is a combination of the light, the way I shot, and the editing. I tried to correct the skin tone so it looked less red or yellow or something like that. It’s so hard to be unbiased and properly critical towards your own work. I find that photographers are better and critiquing other’s work than their own.

Haha, and so true with the grain. Same with the light leak trend I have seen lately!

[ebi]

I can tell you my experience. I went to school in a small town in Ohio. Started out working on a business degree, moved to a graphic design degree, then moved to my main campus (also a small town). Graduated with both the business and Graphic design degree, promptly moved to nyc and started assisting for about 8 years. I now shoot freelance and no longer assist. I had to call it quits with assisting as it was interfering with my ability to take jobs. The decision was lucrative. I work less but make more per day. Assisting rate for someone like me was around $400-500 a day and if I got 4 days a week I was making $1600 a week. As a photographer, if I book 4 days a month, make around $15,000 to $20,000. Sometimes I book more, sometimes I book less. Sometimes I get paid more per day, per project, sometimes I make less. Right now, I’m working on a travel project for a well known travel website that pays about $2500 for about 3 days of work. It’s much lower than most, because it’s editorial,  but its fun, will be a great addition to my portfolio and comes with some really great contacts. But I have the flexibility to always be working on my portfolio and taking care of the business end of things as well as networking – which is the single most important aspect of this job.

My 8 years of assisting has been invaluable. I learned from some of the best photographers. And even if they weren’t the best they were always working. I traveled immensely all over the world, shot when I could, and met some amazing industry people many of which I still work with today.

As far as East Coast/West Coast. It really depends. I think you should figure out which coast you like better. But it really has to be NYC or LA, maybe Miami. If it’s fashion you are into, then it’s most likely NYC. If it’s celebrity, it is incredibly difficult (unless you want to be paparazzi, gasp), but you should be in LA.

I live in Brooklyn and there is nothing questionable about it. Even the Pratt area is much better than when I moved here almost a decade ago. Everything is getting gentrified. I’ve never been in a questionable situation here. So you can put that thought to rest.

No worries about all the questions. I’m glad I can help. I wish I had the internet when I was your age to figure this out…i’m not that old BTW…lol

Now for some technical stuff, since you have some questions about that. I can point you in the right direction for some tools that will help for skin tones and color.

Monitor: Are you using a mac? If so, then you are half way there. Mac monitor suck for color but you can get yourself a colorimeter to help. I’d go Spyder for cost (approx. $49). Seems expensive but my color calibrator is $1500. Spyder is a good place to start. http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=753569&is=REG&A=details&Q=

You also should get yourself a simple gray card. Like this one: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/529527-REG/Digital_Image_Flow_DGK_2_Digital_Grey_Kard_Premium.html

I have a macbeth color checker which costs about $200.  Btw, if you haven’t figured this out, photography is expensive.  You can get the cheap version for now. You are just looking for a simple starting point for color. You can click this as your gray point in editing software (I like Capture One Pro or Lightroom) and it automatically sets your gray point. You can adjust color temperature (yellow to blue) and tint (green to magenta). I like lightroom because it allows you to do split toning so you can add a little yellow to your highlights and blue to your shadows, if you like that kind of thing. C1Pro doesn’t make this so easy.

Backing up a bit, if you are on a PC, then that kind of sucks b/c PC’s are shit for photography. That said, I know many big companies that still use PC’s, much to my dismay. All the same software applies, but i would look at investing in a slightly better monitor. Something like this NEC on the low end ($750): http://www.necdisplay.com/p/desktop-monitors/p241w-bk For reference. I have a 27″ EIZO monitor which set me back about $3000.

Once you have all this, you are set for color. Now all you have to do is get your exposure right in camera. luckily, cameras have quite some range so you don’t have to be exact but it would be best to know what exposures work in what situations. Full Sun at 100ISO (canon cameras you should set to 160ISO as that is native, but we will stick to 100ISO). Full sun at 100ISo – 100 f/16  It’s the sunny 16 rule, which I see has a wikipedia page after googling: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunny_16_rule

OR you could just set your camera to AV (aperture priority) and think less about the light and more about what depth. I like to do this when I want to shoot at F/8. take a shot, see how it looks, then go to manual and make adjustments. So if I get 500 F/8 and it’s too bright, I go to manual, stay at F/8 and bring the shutter speed down to 640.

But of course none of this applies to me b/c I NEVER shoot in full sun. Usually I’ll shoot backlit or in the shade. Just my style.

Confused yet?

lets talk a little more about color. Back in the day (before my day) the fashion industry was really into pinkish skin tones. now they like warm and sometimes they like very neutral or very blue skin tones, which I think looks bad, but hey, whatever is your cup of tea. You’ll have to find a style and try to stick to it. I like warmish skin tones – slightly warm from neutral.  The photo that jackd put up: http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/7816/c4rg.jpg is a little too yellow for my taste and perhaps a bit too contrasty. The blacks are too heavy. The whites are too white. Here’s the problem with this on a technical level. If these images were to be printed, the printer would not lay down any ink in the cheeks or the hands. which means that you’ll have big blotches of just paper and no ink in place of those two things.  The same is true with your original. Skin tones need to not lead in the reds more than about 238 (from a total of 255). 255 is pure white, but anything beyond 238 in red on a digital file and your printer doesn’t know what to do with it. You can adjust for this in post, but it just fills it in with red and you’ll end up with a red spot instead of a skin colored spot. It ends up looking pretty bad in print. This gets especially worse if you happen to be shooting for a magazine which has horrible pre press and prints on horrible stock (think toilet paper). All of a sudden your beautiful tear sheets that were going to go in your portfolio look horrendous and the magazine never hires you again. Film had excellent latitude and back in the day you ran test strips of film and could determine if you needed to push or pull the film depending on the test strip. But we aren’t in the film days anymore. We deal in a digital world and that means that these things as well as the horrid backlight situation which you are also dealing with creates lots of problems. Backlighting photographs looks great…if it’s film. If it’s digital, it’s not so nice. But it can be done. For one, you won’t really want to be shooting directly into the sun. And you’ll want to shoot slightly under. And that is the main lesson, I think, in this situation, is to shoot slightly underexposed, bring it up and post and then bring the whites back down. Hopefully (fingers crossed), there will still be enough detail in the image so that it doesn’t look so shitty backlit….hopefully. One can never tell with digital.

Still confused? Let’s move on. Everyone always wants to emulate Annie Leibovitz. I can’t stand her. Her reputation precedes her and that Vogue/Hurricane sandy cover story was one of the stupidest things i’ve ever seen in the fashion industry. And I’ve worked in fashion for a long time and seen some pretty stupid stuff (http://fashionisbullshit.com/2011/06/lv-elephant/)

Instead I’d like to direct your attention to some artist reps. Best to see some work from working photographers. Leibovitz tends to steal work from other artists on her roster if it interests her (she owns her own agency – http://www.artandcommerce.com/). And don’t just look at the photographers, look at hair and makeup too. It might turn you on to other photographers that might not be in the agency roster. Pin some stuff for reference. You have pinterest right?

http://www.art-dept.com/

http://www.jedroot.com/

http://beta.lebook.com/

http://www.ba-reps.com/

http://www.exposureny.com/

http://www.raybrownpro.com/

http://www.wschupfer.com/

 

Hope that helps and was not TL;DR.

 

[cameraclicker]

Jackd, I find the easiest way to have photos appear in line is to upload them to Flickr then provide the link on a line by itself here.  Having images appear in line when linked from my own web page is a major pain.  There seems to be a lot of automated rules applied to posts here.

[christinamphoto]

Will Flickr or 500px suffice for awhile, or do I need to get a website to host a portfolio?

ebi, thank you for the invaluable response. My concern is that I don’t want to jump the gun, and not have at least some advantage and more skill/experience before I move.Today’s actually my 18th, so I would like to get a degree first, but I’m also really anxious to move on from my small town (I’m used to moving around). And yes, I have a macbook with a matte screen, and no, I do not want to be a paparazzi, haha.

In high school, my photography class was film, so I started out learning more about f/stop, sunny 16, etc. I usually adjust to look, but I would like to be more consistent and precise, and focus more on wb adjustment by looking at the metering, which I’m not in the habit of doing. If there’s sun I shoot in the shade too, but having more knowledge of what is good lighting before I’m in a spot, and creating my own light with flash is something I can build upon. I learned I don’t want to shoot in direct sun right away, haha. I still make basic mistakes, but I manage to improve a little as I go along. Also, thank you for all of the links, I read everything you wrote. Now that people have pointed it out, I pay more attention to skin tones. Warmer tones are my preference, but since I live in the Northwest, that doesn’t always happen in natural light, so I feel like I should adopt a cooler style, haha. Up until last fall, my only computer was a Dell, and the particular model I had was falling apart.

I’m really interested in seeing your portfolio (and I have some other questions); would you mind e-mailing me? christinamphoto@gmail.com

Also, I agree –I think that thing about Ms.Leibovitz  was in the back of my mind. The idea of what she shoots and who she gets to work with is probably more of my aspiration and why I mentioned her.

 

[cameraclicker]

Flickr will let you upload very large images.  I would size them 1920 px wide or 1024 px wide, they don’t need to be larger and the bigger they are, the longer they take to upload.

500px have been changing their site as well.  I haven’t uploaded there in a while.  900 px was what they were using and I don’t know if that has changed.  There are other sites that display at 650 px wide but if you click on the image you see the original size.

Most sites display photos better than Facebook.  What is/are your goal for a site?

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